Adium

Ticket #10042 (closed defect: fixed)

Opened 3 months ago

Last modified 3 months ago

Emoticon issues (collected)

Reported by: Robby Assigned to: nobody
Priority: normal Milestone: SVN issues
Component: Adium Core Version: 1.3b2
Severity: regression Keywords: emoticon
Cc: Pash91, pi++ Patch: None
Pending: 0

Description (Last modified by evands)

I have to say sorry. Over the day I lost track of tickets pointing out problems with emoticons so I failed to close the tickets after the first one as duplicates with the result that the information is spread all over the tickets.
That's why I'm going to try to collect all issues in this new ticket.

The following issues with emoticons have been reported:

  • "Crying" emoticon: :'(, according to #10025 and #10032 it's case sensitivity
  • "The Disappointed and the Eye-Rolling emoticons are the same" (pi++ in #10010)
    (wontfix per evands in #10010 as the difference is the animation in eye-rolling and this is fine)
  • "I don't know if this is intentional, but :P is not recognized as an alias of :-P" (pi++ in #10010) (evands: worksforme in the default set)
  • ":-[ needs to be added to embarrassed" (Pash91 in #10032) (evands: wontfix: I've never seen this one used for 'embarrassed', and Wikipedia's List of Common Emoticons doesn't know about it either.)
  • ":-* is common for kiss, it is listed as whisper in this release" (Pash91 in #10032)
  • ":d doesn't work as an alias for the :-D emoticon in the MSN set. This might be the case for all emoticon sets? :s, :o and :p do work." (lorre in #10032) (evands: wontfix: :d doesn't look like :D or :-D. It doesn't make sense for them to be equivalent.)

Change History

06/10/2008 07:28:25 PM changed by evands

(In [23909]) Fixed case of the Crying emoticon file name in the default emoticon set, which caused the emoticon not to display on case sensitive file names. Thanks to Pash91 (refs #10025) for the fix. Refs #10042

06/10/2008 07:29:08 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 07:29:28 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 07:31:20 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 07:33:35 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 07:34:24 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 07:47:26 PM changed by evands

(In [23910]) :* and :-* are definitely Kiss, not 'Secret Telling'. This leaves behind an unused 'Secret Telling' emoticon for now... if someone can propose a good emoticon for it, it can stay, but not with those equivalents. Refs #10042.

06/10/2008 07:51:43 PM changed by evands

  • cc set to Pash91, pi++.
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06/10/2008 08:05:35 PM changed by giandrea

:* abd :-* are 'Secret Telling' on MSN. Will this change create problems with the MSN emoticons set?

06/10/2008 08:09:04 PM changed by jas8522

Evan: as giandrea mentioned, those are indeed secret telling on MSN. I don't see why AIM should take priority over MSN when our user share is nearly equal between the two services. Instead, the default set should remain a fair and unbiased representation of emoticons such that any conflicts should be removed altogether.

This emoticon can create major confusion: what happens if one of my MSN contacts sends me a secret telling emoticon, but it shows up as a kiss on my end? Not good!

06/10/2008 08:20:31 PM changed by evands

The MSN set takes priority if enabled while talking over MSN in all cases... and the MSN set takes priority over Default if both are enabled and MSN is ordered higher in all cases.

I don't think that changing the default makes sense if the two usages are equal... and citing Wikipedia again, I think Kiss is the more common of the two. It's certainly what iChat uses, so Kiss is therefore seen as that emoticon by old versions of Adium running default and iChat users on XMPP, AIM, and Bonjour, in addition to whatever other clients support it.

06/10/2008 08:21:10 PM changed by evands

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06/10/2008 08:26:01 PM changed by jas8522

  • status changed from new to closed.
  • resolution set to fixed.
  • milestone changed from Adium X 1.3 to SVN issues.

Alright, you have a good point in that AIM is not the only one to use that. I also agree about :d not being the same as :D ... it just visually makes no sense ;)

It looks like that covers all of them then.